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Title: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 08, 2015, 06:41:11 AM
Modern pacman and cabinet theme with retro feel to it. Also, new wheel borders and colors.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 08, 2015, 06:44:58 AM
Continued... The modern cabinet theme
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 08, 2015, 06:47:10 AM
Continued... Re-sized for better viewing.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 08, 2015, 06:51:20 AM
Continued... Modern cab with different background.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 08, 2015, 07:06:11 AM
continued... Pacman theme without grey video border.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: drunkatuw on February 19, 2015, 10:14:09 AM
I love the border on the wheel art. Would you be willing to share the wheel art image and the layout.nut?

Thanks,
Dave
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 21, 2015, 09:38:03 AM
Dave-

Here is two layout nuts. One has the wheel effect the other is without it and scrolls up and down. The wheel art is too big to upload here and I am out of dropbox space. I'll see what I can do. 
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: drunkatuw on February 21, 2015, 01:36:23 PM
Thanks for the layout.nut, I modified it a little bit and combined it with the basic theme that comes with attract-mode to create my own theme.

Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 22, 2015, 06:10:38 AM
Hey drunkatu,

That Mame theme looks real nice.
Where did you get the wheel art for it?
It really pops without the boarders.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: drunkatuw on February 22, 2015, 06:47:54 AM
I downloaded most of the wheel art in a 95gb hyperspin torrent years ago and then filled in the missing ones using this webpage:
http://hyperbase.hyperspin-fe.com/artwork.asp?t=wheelhave&s=2&c=6&p=yes

Otherwise, you can become a supporting member of hyperspin and get access to their FTP where you can download all the wheel art.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 22, 2015, 04:11:37 PM
I downloaded most of the wheel art in a 95gb hyperspin torrent years ago and then filled in the missing ones using this webpage:
http://hyperbase.hyperspin-fe.com/artwork.asp?t=wheelhave&s=2&c=6&p=yes

Otherwise, you can become a supporting member of hyperspin and get access to their FTP where you can download all the wheel art.

can you make your layout available for download?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: drunkatuw on February 22, 2015, 06:07:20 PM
This zip should include all the files you need. Let me know if you have any problems loading it.

Dave
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 22, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
Thanks man!
I'll try it out this week.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 24, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
Hey! Looks good. For anyone who is interested in creating your own wheel sets, go here http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?10519-AutoKustomWheels-v1-0 (http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?10519-AutoKustomWheels-v1-0) and download autokustomwheels program. Select the desired background and border on the left side. Point to the original wheel set and then save list to new directory and the conversion should start.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 24, 2015, 01:27:27 PM
Here is an example of nintendo 3D cards created with autokustomwheels.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on February 24, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
And SNES, working on a unified theme.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on March 06, 2015, 10:38:07 AM
I am not a graphics wizard but I put a label or two in the basic layout that came with your spinwheel. Hope you don't mind. Great work by the way love the theme! The other backgrounds (with the system pics) are awesome! Good work man! HS is just too much eye candy I think..and mala was too plain. Attract mode is in the middle and that is good for us who have computers that are not i5s and i7s quad cores with 16GB ram. (Plus I love penguins.)
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 07, 2015, 07:00:07 AM
Looks great man, and I agree with you about HS. I find myself asking the question "is this too much"? on all my layouts. And, it seems that I am never quite happy, LOL.  The hardest thing for me is trying to balance simplicity with something that looks good which is why I keep experimenting with gimp. On that note, I've created some more layouts also based on the basic layout like you did. Here is what I've come up with so far, but I am still kind of experimenting. The ultimate goal is to come with an unified theme. I am somewhat new to gimp so its been a learning process. More or less these are concepts like most of the stuff I've done. Left me know what you think because its good to have a different perspective. 
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 07, 2015, 07:01:38 AM
Another tron...
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 07, 2015, 07:02:58 AM
Moon patrol without glow...
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 07, 2015, 07:09:33 AM
Tron with glow effect.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 07, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
I took your basic mod and added some console backgrounds with 3d shadow effect. I probably should center the logos like you did.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 07, 2015, 11:03:23 AM
NES version. I'm thinking about creating all the popular consoles if there is enough interest.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on March 08, 2015, 10:12:31 PM
Where is the "I'm not worthy" smiley at..wow those are awesome man!  ;D Thanks for sharing your work. I'm more of a code monkey not a graphics artist lol I started doing my own "media pack" I have made 664 video snaps and i am going to make "custom marquees" because I hate the look of a blank marquee  :P I started making my own wheel art for mame..but I have no hair left..so I'll have to wait a bit. I do want to share some. Don't get me wrong I know it is a lot of hard work to do all that...but as for hyper spin kinda sucks to show all that and then you get "nothing" (batteries not included!) and it would be a BIG download! I have read that emu movies snaps suck but I don't know anything about that..never seen one. Here is some wheel art I made. Question about video snaps..I know people have LCD or LED monitors..but do you really want them HD..I mean come on Pac-Man looks even worse in HD lol As for "insterst" in your work..yes it is work but do you love doing it? if others use it great..if not..it's the thrill of making it..either way you win. (I'll download everyone of them! lol) I used a theme when I was using Mamewah..just because they looked good and well he did EVERY system so it made my cab look nice. People like that more than anything.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: crawlingpeter on March 28, 2015, 07:42:27 AM
This is really awesome! I love the hyperspin-style scrolling. I have two questions.

1. Would it be possible to just upload your wheel art background? Mine would definitely look better if they were a little more readable.

2. What do you guys do for games that don't have any wheel art at all? Right now, there is just a black slot and it looks pretty goofy.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on March 28, 2015, 10:21:07 AM
Crawlingpeter:

Wheel art background? Help me there please. I'm guessing not the system (emulator) background but the wheel art itself. Most of the wheel art I do has a transparent background..that way it can be used with any theme.and because it looks better in the screen saver :P it will be a long while before I get all my wheel art done.  :( So mine just stay blank.

And as for wheel art..you can join hyper spin (and donate cash) and download the wheel pack for mame if you want. Others there have some wheel art free for other systems (look for Kustom wheel art)
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on March 28, 2015, 10:33:44 AM
Hey omegaman...have you checked out any mamewah themes? Emuchrist did a pack for like almost every system and it was simple and nice. http://wahki.mameau.com/index.php?title=Cpviewer_color (http://wahki.mameau.com/index.php?title=Cpviewer_color) Thinking of doing something like that? A running theme..that would be nice. But that wheel art gives it that "pop" it needs but doesn't over do it. The theme you are doing is awesome. Any artwork you need/want to make more backgrounds let me know I'll see what I can find for you. Oh and about the always tweaking and asking yourself is this too much (or like I do.."is it perfect yet") ...every true artist does that...you think the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel took so long because he was on his back? No it was because he was worried someone was going to climb up there and look so he took his time to do it right ;)
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: crawlingpeter on March 28, 2015, 10:55:05 AM
Oops! Sorry for being vague. For the wheel art background, I was looking for something like you can see in this image: http://forum.attractmode.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110.0;attach=64;image
Just the consistent oval background behind each individual wheel art piece!

And yes, I actually am a platinum HyperSpin member and have all the wheel art they offer... However, HyperSync/HyperBase does not have a complete collection of wheel art so every once in a while, I'll scroll across a game with no wheel art at all. I was wondering what you guys do in that case. Just leave it blank and look for the title of the game elsewhere on the screen?

Thanks!

Crawlingpeter:

Wheel art background? Help me there please. I'm guessing not the system (emulator) background but the wheel art itself. Most of the wheel art I do has a transparent background..that way it can be used with any theme.and because it looks better in the screen saver :P it will be a long while before I get all my wheel art done.  :( So mine just stay blank.

And as for wheel art..you can join hyper spin (and donate cash) and download the wheel pack for mame if you want. Others there have some wheel art free for other systems (look for Kustom wheel art)
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on March 28, 2015, 03:06:57 PM
Ahh I see I tried using that AutoKustom wheel thing to make my wheels but i couldn't figure it out. Seemed like to me that all it did was make the background oval...where is the name of the game at?  ??? I mean if you have to grab it yourself and then plaster it on the back ground anyway what's the point? Don't get me wrong I have some that i use for my other systems but just seemed pointless to me. What i need was something that will rip the words of of whatever artwork I throw at it and batch it. I put a sample of my work on this thread somewhere..check it out if you like that is what it is there for. Like i said though it will be a long while till I am done.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: crawlingpeter on March 29, 2015, 05:36:03 AM
Ohh so you used that AutoKustom wheel thinger and think that's how omegaman got his art with the oval background stuff too? I gotcha. Your samples did look cool but yea, that will be a looooong process.  :P

Ahh I see I tried using that AutoKustom wheel thing to make my wheels but i couldn't figure it out. Seemed like to me that all it did was make the background oval...where is the name of the game at?  ??? I mean if you have to grab it yourself and then plaster it on the back ground anyway what's the point? Don't get me wrong I have some that i use for my other systems but just seemed pointless to me. What i need was something that will rip the words of of whatever artwork I throw at it and batch it. I put a sample of my work on this thread somewhere..check it out if you like that is what it is there for. Like i said though it will be a long while till I am done.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 29, 2015, 02:11:46 PM
Crawl-

For the blank spaces that show up in the wheel just create a generic wheel art "wheel.png" and drop it into the layout folder. I created one with arcade art on it that matches the wheel style. You could also edit your romlist.  But, really the easiest thing is to just drop the wheel.png in your layout folder.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 29, 2015, 02:37:51 PM
Akafox-

Thanks for your comments friend. Checkout the new layouts with particle effects that I uploaded to main thread.  A unified layout style with particle effects that match the theme. I got rid of the marquee border since it's no longer needed with the added effects. We need some online storage for the stuff we're creating, FTP server would be idea. I have a bunch of wheel art that I could upload for people that want it. Once, I get your seal of approval on this new stuff I'll make some more for popular consoles. I'm already working on Nintendo. Any other ideas you have based on the new stuff let me know.   
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 30, 2015, 04:06:00 AM
Im thinking something like a google drive for the projects would be a good idea for sharing layouts and art?

My only question is for omega, how do those themes based on vertical games look when you use them on a vertical monitor?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 30, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
Nitrogen-

I haven't tested any themes on vertical yet which is what 480x600? The only thing I've tested is 1024x768 which is pretty standard for frontends like hyperspin. I could make some layouts for that size if someone is willing to test them for me. The problem, I am running into right now though is my spin wheel doesn't scale with the layout proportionately. For example, everything looks great at 1024x768 or  640x480 but beyond that the wheel doesn't scale . Right now, I am creating 640x480 themes then scale them up to 1024x768 by specifying that size in the layout nut with fe.layout.width=1024;
fe.layout.height=768. Probably easy fix for the spin wheel but Ive been busy creating new themed layouts :p

Oh, as you suggested, I added 8 bit tron disk art to my presets. I thought it looked a little odd too.     
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 30, 2015, 09:01:41 AM
I see what you mean on the resolution.
If a TV or arcade monitor then yes 480x640
If an LCD panel I'd hope it's a 4:3 aspect LCD people are using.
I'd go with the standard resolution of 768x1024 or 1024x1280.

Id test them out if you wanted on a vertical LCD panel.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on March 30, 2015, 10:10:03 AM
Throw them at me. I'll test them. I normally run everything in 600x800 max anyway (unless I am working). Again why run mame games at 768x1024 or 1024x1280 most of these games don't even do 480x640. Pac-Man is only 288x224 (80's) and SFIII:3 is only 384x224! (99) :P The "worse" your resolution the better your "speed and performance" anyway ;) These are not hi-def games we are talking about here. Always remember mame does not use your graphics card unless you are doing special effects (artwork, overlay effects or HLSL). Remember these games are old they used the crappiness of the display to make the games look better :D
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 30, 2015, 04:04:44 PM
OK, tested the vertical some what and it didn't look pretty as expected. So, I think I'm gonna retool some of these layouts for vertical too. Another thing to add to the list. Thing is, I am asking myself, how practical is a wheel for vertical layouts?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 30, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
Throw them at me. I'll test them. I normally run everything in 600x800 max anyway (unless I am working). Again why run mame games at 768x1024 or 1024x1280 most of these games don't even do 480x640. Pac-Man is only 288x224 (80's) and SFIII:3 is only 384x224! (99) :P The "worse" your resolution the better your "speed and performance" anyway ;) These are not hi-def games we are talking about here. Always remember mame does not use your graphics card unless you are doing special effects (artwork, overlay effects or HLSL). Remember these games are old they used the crappiness of the display to make the games look better :D

I agree with what you are saying.
For a crt.

Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 31, 2015, 06:08:56 PM
My first attempt at a vertical layout, based on defender with ship particle effect.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on March 31, 2015, 06:26:26 PM
akafox -

Test this vertical layout for me. I included my preset folder with particle effects. I forgot to include the font.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 01, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
Same vertical layout with star background.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 01, 2015, 09:42:20 AM
I guess the snap border could be moved over to the right a bit to fill in the negative space, what do you think?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 01, 2015, 04:27:46 PM
akafox -

Test this vertical layout for me. I included my preset folder with particle effects. I forgot to include the font.

Looks good! I like it...but I couldn't get it to rotate vertical (90) so half of my screen was just black. And my wheel art never showed either. Either I am doing something wrong or I am missing something...


OK, tested the vertical some what and it didn't look pretty as expected. So, I think I'm gonna retool some of these layouts for vertical too. Another thing to add to the list. Thing is, I am asking myself, how practical is a wheel for vertical layouts?

I see your point here. But honestly for my cocktail table (most of my games are vertical) that would be great. No other system does vertical except mame anyway so you'll only have to make one. :P

Do have a question...in another front end you could control the front end with either joystick. That is to say it would flip (because it was a cocktail table). Can you do that with AM?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 01, 2015, 05:21:45 PM
My bad, I was testing on a horizontal screen and I didn't put anything in the script to handle vertical yet. But, under control/input you can assign a key to rotate 90 degree's right? I flipped it on my monitor with for-mentioned method and the wheel looked OK. I know that cools has a vertical script to handle rotation already, so I'll play around with that. Unless, you want take a look at his script and incorporate it real quick. BTW, you snap looks great, so does the wheel. And, I thought I was dedicated :p 
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 01, 2015, 05:57:44 PM
lol you ARE dedicated man just on a different part. But it takes all parts of the body to make it work...even down to the smallest thing right?

Ok so the snaps I'll keep doing that way..THAT I can do. As for the wheel art..I don't mind doing them..but i'll push it off to someone that WANTS to do them because they LIKE to do them lol. I have a lot of snaps already. Your encouragement will help me finish them! Thanks :D

Ok I did that (I knew there was a way to flip but I couldn't remember..never thought to look in the controls :P). Still the same thing. Covers half the rest is black. I get no logo (should say mame right?) and no wheel. Not sure what's wrong. The particles work and look good though. I like them :)
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 01, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
akafox-

Hey! add this to the script and let me know :p ... Man, it's a pain testing this on my monitor. Having to go into portrait mode, changing the resolution to lowest setting and mouse... 

fe.layout.orient=RotateScreen.Right;
fe.layout.width=fe.layout.width/2;
local rot=(fe.layout.base_rotation+fe.layout.toggle_rotation)%4;
switch (rot) {
 case RotateScreen.Right:
 case RotateScreen.Left:
  break;
}
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 02, 2015, 04:43:53 AM
I swear I answered this last night. Did my post go poof? :( The code works as expected. I had to place it in the right place though. Still though it is only "half size" also it makes the bottom of the list box the bottom of the screen almost.

Quote
Man, it's a pain testing this on my monitor. Having to go into portrait mode, changing the resolution to lowest setting and mouse...

I know..making my snaps has made all sorts of problems I never thought of! lol
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 02, 2015, 06:05:55 AM
Fox-

You were asking about your snap in comparison to the ones available on emumovie, so I uploaded one to let you be the judge. I do think the snap you made has a cleaner look to it.

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/xza5vpdaql00m6l/sfiii3.mp4 (http://www.mediafire.com/watch/xza5vpdaql00m6l/sfiii3.mp4) 
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 02, 2015, 06:24:36 AM
Fox-

I would put that rotation code right under the local config section. When, I tested it on my rig and changed my resolution to 600x800 in portrait mode everything filled the screen proportionality. So, I would like to know what is going on there. If you have a different resolution than that then you might try  0, 0, fe.layout.width, fe.layout.height or specify the right resolution. Any smaller than that though and the wheel might look too big. Curious about this one.   
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 02, 2015, 09:18:40 AM
Yep. I tried all that. but this is what I get. The snaps and vids come up but everything else is missing..oh and the effects do work fine
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 02, 2015, 09:29:15 AM
As for the vid snaps. Thanks that is exactly what I wanted to know! :D So I will work on them. I can make them faster than wheel art! :P I'm trying to compare video quality/crispness. Seems to me they are real close. I started making them at low quality to save space and I mean come on it's just a vid snap to show the game...until I wanted to use them for my screen saver..then I was like umm..no. lol I have a lot already and have many more to do. I will do all of the mame set I guess..(and/or mess) but I'll do the ones that work and that i have first (I stripped out all the mature and mahjong and stuff. As for clones..just copy the movie and rename it!) We'll see what people want i guess. Some games I can not stay alive for long enough to make it 30 secs! lol
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 02, 2015, 12:16:57 PM
Ok, I know one problem from the get go. My marquee setting in the emulator/mame.cfg is pointed to the wheel too, if that makes sense. I do this sometime because it doesn't really matter as long as you know what you want to turn on in the layout. For example, I might display cart art where the marquee would be etc, etc...  And, as long as your emulator/mame.cfg is pointed to the right DIR where your wheel art is everything should be copacetic. I am still not sure why your screen is like that, though - unless you have rotation set under the control input screen before launching the layout. I think once a key is mapped and pressed, it keeps the layout rotated until pressed again. But, I could be wrong on that point. Hope this helps...
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 03, 2015, 12:03:21 PM
It was like that before I added that code snip in there actually or before I tried to rotate it. The reason I say something about the wheel ect...is because if I change to the first one you made it works just fine art and all. So I'm guessing it is something with this layout.nut. For you though it works I'm sure...so I'm at a lost of why it doesn't at least TRY and work for me better. It has to be my end somewhere..but where? Anybody else having this problem? Or could somebody (or penguin) try this and see if they have the same problem please? )You are linux right omega?)
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 03, 2015, 03:51:00 PM
Fox-

No, I'm on windows 7. And, I even have one cab running on vista with zero problems. I haven't used linux for years. When I did, it was either Slackware, red hat, or SuSE. Back then, it was a real accomplishment if you could get x11 to work right. Of course, red hat and SuSE changed all that. So, maybe a linux video driver issue but who knows. I do know linux is much easier now with everything compiled with it but I would probably still prefer compiling only the drivers I need for a fast and lean system. Then add packages as needed.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 03, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
What is your desktop resolution akafox?
i'm also getting the same as you.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 03, 2015, 09:21:51 PM
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nitrogen said:
What is your desktop resolution akafox?
i'm also getting the same as you.

I tried them all. 1280X800..all the way down to 640X480. Same thing each time.


Yes omega man linux has come a long way...come back to the light side...*waves my hand* windows is not the OS you're looking for :P lol No Honestly I have heard good things about Win7 but vista left a bad taste in my mouth I have never shaken..from what i have read about windows 10..well I am scared to use it (that's for a different forum though).

Edit: I noticed that with the original layout.nut it was squashed "half way"..after I added your code to rotate it squashed it more! the particle effects work just fine even in the black area..so idk it's weird.

Ok got something..got it working correctly horizontally!...it was the code in the layout. Line 41 reads:

Code: [Select]
ExtendedObjects.add_image("bg", "bg.png", 0, 0, 600, 800);
should be:

Code: [Select]
ExtendedObjects.add_image("bg", "bg.png", 0, 0, 800, 600);

However when I add the "rotation code" it squashes again! so I'll comb it again.

Second edit: Ok I got it working had to put the rotation code before the layout size code seems like. I still have no wheel or marquee or even text for that matter still....

Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 04, 2015, 04:52:18 AM
Strange, must be a setting in linux somewhere causing this or something I missed, I presume. The bg.png was created in 600x800 for vertical display. The wheel dimensions were tweaked for this size too. Anything other than this size will not look right. It might be able to scale up a bit, though the wheel setting in the conveyor section would need adjusting. For what it's worth, I tested this on a widescreen monitor but like I said, I changed my video resolution to 600x800 portrait mode for testing purposes. And, it fit the screen perfectly. The common denominator here is linux for both of you, so I could have missed something in the script that linux doesn't like but windows finds acceptable. Anyway, all my rigs right now have windows on them. If I get some time other than making layouts maybe I will duel boot one of them with linux for testing purposes, grrr... But, this is what I pay you linux experts for :p Anyway, don't beat me up too bad this is my first attempt at a vertical layout.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 04, 2015, 08:57:49 AM
I got my kids all weekend so looking at the .but will be tough but I'll look.
Verticools works fine for me if that helps.
I can also update my 64 bit live . iso with attract mode 1.5 and make it available then you could just toss it on a USB a boot up to tool around.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 04, 2015, 02:47:14 PM
I made some small changes to the script, can one of you guys test it for me. You might still have to rotate with control/input option. See attached for layout.nut
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 04, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
Nitro-

I was thinking about making a live cd myself. On the same topic, have you ever used FreeBSD? I used it for a while, years ago and liked it a lot. When I get the time, think I am going to try installing attract on BSD.   
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 05, 2015, 09:35:55 AM
I use pc Linux os.
The 32 bit lxde build I'm working on now boots to. About 150 MB use and when I switch to fluxbox and turn of non-esential stuff it'll run just fine on a p4 with 512 MB ram and advmame. 106.
Attract needs at least a radeon 7000 to run the basic layouts.

After I get everything autoloading and trim the Dev files to shrink the iso I'll provide a link.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 05, 2015, 07:11:01 PM
I tried your new layout omega man. I had the same problem as with the old one  :o

There is a live CD floating around the forums actually. I tried it in a virtual box but all it did was lock up after install and reboot. I tried using UCK to make a "Live Attract Mode CD" but it always cried about something. I'll try again maybe.

As or FreeBSD. Yeah if you can awesome! (A BSD cab will run better on older hardware...and faster on newer hardware). I tried that in a virtual box but can't figure out how to install everything i need to compile it. :o took me two days to get x running and my mouse working THEN I loaded mame (THAT way easy) but when I tried to compile Attract Mode I got lost lol. Might try that again too *shrugs*
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 05, 2015, 07:34:56 PM
Fox-

Thanks for the update man. Right now, I am hanging my head in shame, LOTI...  If I do install BSD or linux, I need to break out the old reference books and prepare for battle. On the plus side, I won't have to cry trying to get sound to work like in ye olde days.  :P
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 05, 2015, 07:58:47 PM
Fox-

 On the plus side, I won't have to cry trying to get sound to work like in ye olde days.  :P

Very true man! lol

Hey anybody tried my nescatver.ini yet? I need some testers! http://forum.attractmode.org/index.php?topic=116.msg491#msg491 (http://forum.attractmode.org/index.php?topic=116.msg491#msg491)

 in ye olde days? Are you suggesting that we are older than a commodore 64? :P Compared to the way technology ages we are still 15! lol
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 06, 2015, 10:08:54 AM
I tried your new layout omega man. I had the same problem as with the old one  :o

There is a live CD floating around the forums actually. I tried it in a virtual box but all it did was lock up after install and reboot. I tried using UCK to make a "Live Attract Mode CD" but it always cried about something. I'll try again maybe.

As or FreeBSD. Yeah if you can awesome! (A BSD cab will run better on older hardware...and faster on newer hardware). I tried that in a virtual box but can't figure out how to install everything i need to compile it. :o took me two days to get x running and my mouse working THEN I loaded mame (THAT way easy) but when I tried to compile Attract Mode I got lost lol. Might try that again too *shrugs*

Yeah, I think i know why my remaster doesn't work on a virtual PC.
Same reason it does the blank screen on most laptops with onboard video.
I made it with radeon drivers loaded.
But it usually works from CD or live USB.
Usually. :-)

what graphics are you using and driver?
My current 32 bit test system is using onboard Intel and am just segfaults with most layouts but the basic one.
Need to get my 64 bit with dedicated graphics hooked up so I can test this.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 06, 2015, 12:06:50 PM
Yeah it's a laptop with integrated graphics. 64-bit mint 17 for the OS. i-nex says "Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 06, 2015, 03:50:27 PM
Though, its been a while since I used Linux proficiently. This is what I think about you guys running Linux with integrated graphics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSKkwzwdW4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSKkwzwdW4). LOL
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 06, 2015, 04:15:28 PM
Haha.
Yeah the PC I'm testing on I bought for $12 at a thrift shop with only PCI slots.
Pentium 4 2 GHz though.
Its a dell. :-)

Tiny board, tiny power supply planing to use it in a CRT PC monitor bartop.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 06, 2015, 06:17:36 PM
Quote
This is what I think about you guys running Linux with integrated graphics..

very true omega lol! but when it's all you got..it's all you got. The nvidia card in my desk top works like crap full of green splotches. so I have to use on board on my desktop too.

Nice find nitro! Yeah it's not the best but it works! :)

Have not tried that layout on my desktop....hmm
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 08, 2015, 01:34:55 PM
Ok So I tore apart the layout.nut file and was messing around with it...got it display right..but I wanted to see the wheel and list and stuff before I went on. You had said that you had it that  "weird" resolution because you didn't want the wheel to look squashed. But I just took the list code from the basic layout just to test...well you can see from the screen-shot that the list is underneath the background!  :o  ??? So now what?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 08, 2015, 07:00:13 PM
Fox-

Tweak the conveyor section to move and size the wheel art so its proportionate to your layout. Just keep in mind, the Wheel_x value 350 is the selection position. Also, change the snap coords to move the snap into the frame on the BG. I wasn't using the list but that is your prerogative of course.

fe.load_module( "conveyor" );

local wheel_x = [ 885, 839, 805, 778, 760, 750, 718, 750, 760, 778, 805, 839, ];
local wheel_y = [ -155, -75,  5, 85, 165, 245, 325, 445, 525, 605, 685, 765, ];
local wheel_w = [ 180, 180, 180, 180, 180, 180, 230, 180, 180, 180, 180, 180, ];
local wheel_a = [  80,  80,  80,  80,  80,  80, 255,  80,  80,  80,  80,  80, ];
local wheel_h = [  80,  80,  80,  80,  80,  80, 120,  80,  80,  80,  80,  80, ];
//local wheel_r = [  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,   0,   0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0, ];
local wheel_r = [  24,  20,  16,  12,  8,   4,  0,  -4,  -8,  -12,  -16,  -20, ];
local num_arts = 10;
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 08, 2015, 08:58:04 PM
Well no I don't want to use the list..I like the wheel...I was just pointing out the fact that the background is covering all the text...could that be why nothing shows up? The background is the right size...but I get just that..and snaps in the "window" with your layout...but no marquee no text no nothing else just wondering what caused it.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 09, 2015, 08:10:24 AM
Fox-

In this layout, I am layering the BG over the snap which is why the box is transparent. Everything else should be layered on top of the BG.  I Just checked the script again and the snap is layer one then the the ExtendedObjects.add_image BG everthing else follows after that. I wonder if there is something going on with the extendedObjects and Linux. Like I said, it works fine on windows but for some reason in Linux everything is out of wack. We'll get to the bottom of it sooner or later :p
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 09, 2015, 08:49:23 AM
Tried it in a vbox with XP all other layouts work fine..but the one in question comes up blank (black). Might be a vb problem though. So just real fast I put the background on your spinwheel layout. Wheel everything comes up. So I pasted the particle animation in to see it it would work. All my text vanished...like the other one. I'll keep at it.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 09, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
Fox-

Thanks man, I had a sneaky suspicion extended objects might have something to do with it. There is a debug option that liquid included in the user_config that you can turn on. That might help too.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 09, 2015, 09:42:22 PM
Ok this is what I got after the debug in the terminal

Code: [Select]
Starting Attract-Mode 1.5.1 (Linux)
Config: /home/.attract/attract.cfg

*** Initializing display: 'mame'
 - Loaded master romlist 'mame' in 23 ms (2390 entries kept, 0 discarded)
 - Constructed 6 filters in 22 ms (14340 comparisons)

AN ERROR HAS OCCURED [the index 'ship' does not exist]

CALLSTACK
*FUNCTION [unknown()] /home/.attract/modules/extended/animations/particles/particles.nut line [12]
*FUNCTION [unknown()] /home/.attract/modules/extended/animate.nut line [138]
*FUNCTION [main()] /home/.attract/layouts/uni_mame_vertical - test/layout.nut line [61]

LOCALS
[c] TABLE
[this] TABLE
[o] INSTANCE
[c] TABLE
[this] INSTANCE
[snap] INSTANCE
[offset] 4
[rot] 1
[flh] 800
[flw] 600
[config] TABLE
[vargv] ARRAY
[this] TABLE
Script Error in /home/.attract/layouts/uni_mame_vertical - test/layout.nut - the index 'ship' does not exist
 - Loaded layout: /home/.attract/layouts/uni_mame_vertical - test/ (layout.nut)

in my editor:

Line 12 is:
local config = fe.get_config();

Line 61 is:
if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "ship" } );

138 is:
//text stuff

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 10, 2015, 05:31:21 AM
Fox-

I should have thought of the debug sooner :P. Included in the layout.zip you downloaded there is a presets folder. Copy the images like ship.ping into your \attract\modules\extended\animations\particles\presets. I added new art to the preset folder so anything turned on in the layout will look here.  Here is where you turn on the particle effects art in the layout.nut - As you can see the ship is turned on and I added new art like "disk, bit" that is turned off - These files need to be in the preset folder. There is a default ship.png in the original preset folder that might be called ship too which I just renamed. So, technically it should still work if the name is matched in the preset.nut in the presets folder. Take a look at the preset.nut and you will get a better understanding of what is going on. Then look at the layout nut. You can add your own particles effects this way. 

//uncomment others to see them
if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "sparkle" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "snow" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "default" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "test" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "cloudstoon" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "bubbles1" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "arc1" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "invaders" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "cloudstoon2" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "disk" } );
//if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "bit" } );
if (config.enable_particles == "Yes") ExtendedObjects.get("bg").animate({ which = "particles", preset = "ship" } );
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 10, 2015, 05:50:39 AM
Fox-

Continued... You should have something like this in the preset.nut for it to work. The index name "ship" and resources = " presets/ship.png" . This how you would add your own artwork for particle effects. Just add your own index name and resource art.png in the same presets folder. Then add same index name in layout.nut. This should should help other members too.   

},
     "ship": {
        resources = [ "presets/ship.png" ],
        ppm = 100,
        x = 0,
        y = 0,
        width = fe.layout.width,
        height = fe.layout.height,
        speed = [ 0, 0 ],
        scale = [ 1, 1.5 ],
        rotate = [ 0, 0 ],
        fade = 1500,
        lifespan = 1500
     }
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 10, 2015, 08:55:51 AM
Ok so I turned the ship off. I saw that the first time (not the error but the code "options")..but I was more worried about the back ground not working I guess. I moved all those pics into the folder you said above. Oddly enough it still gave me the same error..but the sparkle effects work just fine as does the invaders. However I turned of the sparkles and then tried to do the "ship3" I got the same error as before. Now I said ok I turned all the effects off.

Code: [Select]
Starting Attract-Mode 1.5.1 (Linux)
Config: /home/.attract/attract.cfg

*** Initializing display: 'mame'
 - Loaded master romlist 'mame' in 23 ms (2390 entries kept, 0 discarded)
 - Loaded layout: /home/.attract/layouts/uni_mame_vertical - test/ (layout.nut)

No errors looks like. Also remember how i said the text and all was not coming up...well it works now..all of it wheel art and all! The picture is still squashed and the sparkles will not display past the background into the black empty space. Before you added the vertical code the sparkles would appear across the whole screen..even if the background was not there.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 10, 2015, 09:51:12 AM
Fox-

OK, this is all on me. I added the preset folder and preset.nut but not with very good instructions. If my preset folder was copied over the original most of the problems would have been eliminated. I will play around with the vertical some more. What happens if you // the rotation code and use rotate under controls? Thanks a lot for all the feedback.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 10, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Fox-

OK, this is all on me. I added the preset folder and preset.nut but not with very good instructions. If my preset folder was copied over the original most of the problems would have been eliminated. I will play around with the vertical some more. What happens if you // the rotation code and use rotate under controls? Thanks a lot for all the feedback.

I'll check that out right now.

In the mean time (and I was going post the error..but is seems it's the same no matter what.) I tried all the effects one by one..the "disk" the "bit" and the "ship" fail all with the same error. (Everything sles works fine..but the squashed background.) I copied over all the effects like you said. They are where they are suppose to be...so why doesn't it find it?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 10, 2015, 10:20:02 AM
Ok now I understand..once I add that to the preset.nut..it doesn't bark and error. And everything works fine. Except of course the background being squashed. I said that the effects seemed to work in the horizontal even with background too small? No I was mistaken. The effects still cut off even with the original code
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 13, 2015, 04:19:20 PM
Well i had to take a break from that layout omega. I  have no idea what it is. It's so weird.

I used your basic spinwheel theme and I made a new back ground for a new emulator. I went OLD school thank you very much! :D
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 13, 2015, 07:23:52 PM
Fox-

No problem man. I think it has something to do with the extended objects in the layout and me not testing it on Linux before hand. There is nothing wrong with old school :p Speaking of that have you read Ready Player One? Good book for us older gamers... 
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 13, 2015, 10:32:22 PM
Honestly I have never heard of it. I looked it up though. I will definitely look into it! :) They started on the movie in March. http://deadline.com/2015/03/ready-player-one-movie-steven-spielberg-ernest-cline-warner-bros-1201398299/ (http://deadline.com/2015/03/ready-player-one-movie-steven-spielberg-ernest-cline-warner-bros-1201398299/) Books are always better though :D I want to see the movie 'Pixels'. I'm sure these kids will not have a clue what those games are lol
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 14, 2015, 11:19:16 AM
Fox-

Yeah, I read about the movie deal - I just hope Spielberg does a better job than he did on the crystal skull. I am looking forward to seeing Pixels myself even though it looks like Ghost busters featuring pacman as staypuff :p
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 15, 2015, 11:35:54 AM

Yeah, I read about the movie deal - I just hope Spielberg does a better job than he did on the crystal skull. I am looking forward to seeing Pixels myself even though it looks like Ghost busters featuring pacman as staypuff :p

ROFL

Hey I made some backgrounds for use with your original spinwheel layout. What do you think? It is going to be a running theme..or at least I am going to try :) I'm going to remove the console pic..it's covered by the wheel art..no reason for it to be there. Or i might move it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 15, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
Fox-

Looks good, as they say "practice makes perfect" ...  Are you still using GIMP?  I
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 15, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Fox-

Little tip for the missing wheel art. Grab a generic wheel art and put it in the layout folder as wheel.png. Then every time a game without wheel art will display the generic one.   
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 15, 2015, 03:48:30 PM
Yeah still using GIMP. Yeah good idea..you have one in that vertical layout I think. Yeah it's not the best but thanks :) The background for the gnes is from the boxart itself. Snes doesn't really have a pattern on the box so I just went with that becaue that part of the boxart is black.so it looked good. The boxart background for the sms is white and chequered..we'll see how that goes lol
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: omegaman on April 17, 2015, 06:51:58 AM
Fox-

I like the idea of using the original artwork with the themes. I am still working on my unified theme but I keep changing directions :P It would be nice to have some HQ scans of the all the original console boxes. I have found some but not enough. I have another Idea that I'm working on too but it's still in the early stages :p

Keep up the good work... You will be a GIMP pro in no time.
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: akafox on April 17, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Thanks for the kind words but "pro" might be pushing it :P I find my box scans at 3366x1200 is that hi-rez enough?
Title: Re: Modern themes with retro feel
Post by: mjs4002 on December 12, 2018, 09:14:09 PM
How do I get the background image to appear? I have the wheel,  marquee and snap showing, but my background is just black. Thanks.