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Attract-Mode Support => Themes => Topic started by: Oomek on January 06, 2018, 05:23:33 AM

Title: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on January 06, 2018, 05:23:33 AM
I’ll just drop a link here for this moment.
Release soon.

https://youtu.be/XGQiUk5uwGw

New video of the beta version plus a new overlay menu system:
https://discord.gg/nym8y5
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: calvorota on January 06, 2018, 06:23:14 AM
Impresive work mate!. Clean and smart. Looking forward to test it.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on January 06, 2018, 07:43:11 AM
nice,,,real nice...

been waiting for that transparency! :)

oh ya.....were the heck have you been.... >:(



update....well im glad your feeling on the up! brother...
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on January 06, 2018, 08:20:11 AM
I suffer from Fibromyalgia mate. I can be active only during my relatively good periods :(
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: dukpoki on January 06, 2018, 10:19:17 AM
Looks sweet!  Thank you for keeping the aspect ratio of the videos/art.   To me that is what makes or breaks a theme.  It's a little thing but goes a long way!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: liquid8d on January 06, 2018, 10:28:41 AM
I spy... Overwatch!  ;D Looks great, and good to see you back!

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374991603376586754/385031760616095746/unnamed-4.jpg?width=891&height=501)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: ryuuji on January 06, 2018, 11:34:24 AM
Ill just drop a link here for this moment.
Release soon.

https://youtu.be/XGQiUk5uwGw

Nice one. Looking forward to try it

I spy... Overwatch!  ;D Looks great, and good to see you back!

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374991603376586754/385031760616095746/unnamed-4.jpg?width=891&height=501)

that would be a good idea for a displays menu layout :P (the menu item style in Overwatch)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: calle81 on January 06, 2018, 01:44:07 PM
Wow, looks amazing. Cant wait to try that blur effect!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: popoklo on January 08, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
this is exactly what i want.
hope u really will release it ! im looking forward to it.
thanks in advance
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: tekn0 on January 08, 2018, 06:06:46 PM
This looks awesome!

Will this work with the PI or in verticle mode?

Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Tapper on January 09, 2018, 03:38:15 AM
This theme looks great. Will definitely be trying it out!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on January 13, 2018, 07:23:55 PM
Hi, a little update here.
For the last week I was distracted by some small bugs in AM which came up while coding that theme.
Why is it always happening to me :P

First was AM freezes when resuming from sleep, then weird behaviour of the video_playing parameter, and now some unusual periodical (every 15s) activity on the GPU. 1st and 2nd are fixed. Now I'm going through the AM sources trying to make some sense out of it ( no offense Andrew, just my knowledge shortages ) and see if I can figure out what is causing this unusual GPU activity.

I know some of you would like to use my blur module, so before releasing I need to make sure it doesn't suck to much juices out of the GPU.



Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on January 13, 2018, 07:34:23 PM
I spy... Overwatch!  ;D Looks great, and good to see you back!

I don't play Overwatch so I blame coincidence :P
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: hamstersteken on February 16, 2018, 01:35:53 PM
Really good looking theme! I've been coming here everyday since you started the thread to se if there's been any updates, gonna keep on checking :) !
Great work!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: gionni44 on February 22, 2018, 05:14:21 AM
Amazing work! Congrats!   ;D
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: viss on March 01, 2018, 08:55:09 AM
So stylish, very nice work !
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on March 02, 2018, 07:10:07 PM
any updates ?  thanks Oomek ;)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: gionni44 on March 09, 2018, 05:49:48 AM
Is there a way to fade out your carreir after a few seconds?
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: beakerman80 on March 21, 2018, 12:28:53 PM
This looks killer sweet!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Deflektor on March 22, 2018, 04:55:22 PM
I'm gonna leave this browser tab open until this cool looking theme is released!  8)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on March 25, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
I’m not able to release the layuot until Andrew accepts my recent 3 pull requests on Github. I’ve added blending modes, font letter spacing parameter and automatic generation of mipmaps to Attract Mode. My layout wont work without it. I know I could release it with my own binary, but I would really like to avoid that.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on March 25, 2018, 12:47:31 PM
thanks for the update.. it's good to know.

ill have to shoot him a "bump"  and a please. :D

and hope for the best...i know its been a while since you did the font fix..
witch im assuming he could of fit in the last update, but did not...

peace....
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Deflektor on March 25, 2018, 03:05:06 PM
Will this theme work on a Raspberry Pi 3? I think I've tried two themes based on carrier.nut and neither worked, just showing white boxes. It might allocate too many objects for the Pi or something?
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on March 25, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
Honestly I have no idea. I’ve never used RPI.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on March 25, 2018, 03:35:51 PM
Does it show any errors in the log?
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Deflektor on March 25, 2018, 05:14:37 PM
Nothing in the log, but stdout shows some GL errors like "Impossible to create render texture (failed to link the target texture to the frame buffer)". Someone mentioned a similar problem in this thread:

http://forum.attractmode.org/index.php?topic=1878.0

I tried increasing the GPU memory from 256 to 512 (the Pi 3 has 1 gig of RAM to split between CPU/GPU), but that didn't help. I guess the Pi just isn't strong enough for the fancier themes.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: progets on March 25, 2018, 09:32:22 PM
Nothing in the log, but stdout shows some GL errors like "Impossible to create render texture (failed to link the target texture to the frame buffer)". Someone mentioned a similar problem in this thread:

http://forum.attractmode.org/index.php?topic=1878.0

I tried increasing the GPU memory from 256 to 512 (the Pi 3 has 1 gig of RAM to split between CPU/GPU), but that didn't help. I guess the Pi just isn't strong enough for the fancier themes.

The Pi 3 can use layouts/themes that use the carrier.nut. Oomek's Silky layout is an example that works well on the Pi. The white boxes you describe do sound like they can be a memory issue or missing/misconfigured artwork (some layouts use different folder names for the artwork assets).

If you are running RetroPie make certain that you're booting to a command line or directly to Attract-Mode. Booting to Emulation Station or Pixel Desktop first and then running Attract-Mode will consume more GPU memory and possibly cause issues. 256MB - 384MB is good setting for your Pi GPU.

Some layouts/themes are created by people using Windows which is NOT case sensitive. These layouts can have problems when they are run on Linux (which is case sensitive) if the author hasn't taken this into account.

I haven't really come across any layouts that won't work on the Pi and I've tried just about everything over the years. They all work but some are so GPU and/or CPU heavy that they will run very slow (to the point you wouldn't want to use them). Make sure that you look at the layout settings if a layout runs slow or doesn't look right. Most layouts have features that can be adjusted/disabled which can speed things up or correct artwork folder issues.

Last thoughts, make sure you're using hardware video decoding (mmal) and not software decoding. Also make sure that your videos aren't too high resolution.

 
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Deflektor on March 25, 2018, 11:13:17 PM
Thanks for the tips. I'm using mmal and booting directly to AM. You're right though, Silky does work fine for me too, so maybe it's an artwork/font path issue with the other carrier.nut ones I tried.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: progets on March 25, 2018, 11:59:08 PM
Thanks for the tips. I'm using mmal and booting directly to AM. You're right though, Silky does work fine for me too, so maybe it's an artwork/font path issue with the other carrier.nut ones I tried.

I don't know if you realize that the "carrier.nut" does the same thing as other "conveyor.nut" files (though some are written better than others). These are really just names the coders chose. Many layouts move artwork around with these type of .nut files such as Robospin, Cosmo, uni_cade, etc. (all which work well on the Pi when setting the layout options properly). This is another very good example for a carrier.nut/conveyour.nut that works well on the Pi when properly configured http://forum.attractmode.org/index.php?topic=1945.0 (http://forum.attractmode.org/index.php?topic=1945.0)


I don't want to hijack this thread so start a new thread or PM me if you want to further discus Pi issues.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: progets on March 26, 2018, 12:21:59 AM
I’m not able to release the layuot until Andrew accepts my recent 3 pull requests on Github. I’ve added blending modes, font letter spacing parameter and automatic generation of mipmaps to Attract Mode. My layout wont work without it. I know I could release it with my own binary, but I would really like to avoid that.

These PRs look really great! Thanks for helping to push AM forward and making our builds more robust with options.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on May 29, 2018, 02:34:11 PM
A little sneak peek of the beta version:

https://youtu.be/jVMn1hB_ZPE

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ifcc1xa5p/2_E9_C7_A7_D-_B107-415_B-8_A41-_DA43_A4136_B62.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/ifcc1xa5p/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/5b6rp8ptp/A9_F2584_F-47_F7-47_A8-82_DF-1_F95_D9_BD5_AAC.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/5b6rp8ptp/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/z1twbk0ot/CB38_B351-_C5_B2-436_A-941_B-025_AE7_B81551.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/z1twbk0ot/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/mbpnxwnfh/E27_BF5_B9-54_FF-4_ECE-92_D3-98295_DEA3171.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/mbpnxwnfh/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/nphatsukt/8_B655236-0_DD2-479_A-_BCCE-467_BF8_C19_A51.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/nphatsukt/)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on May 30, 2018, 06:41:46 AM
dam that is good!,,  i also love the shhh, sound so mutch
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: qqplayer on May 30, 2018, 08:19:28 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Mayki07 on May 30, 2018, 08:26:27 AM
Is there a chance for a 4: 3 version?
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: dukpoki on May 30, 2018, 10:45:12 AM
Amazing job Oomek!  But I think it would be well worth swapping out the vertical filter list to a system list instead!

Here's a theme i'm working on (based on Verion's Magnus) where it has a horizontal system menu on the top left corner and you can change between the systems with left and right and then change between the games with up and down:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h07ZgaUeLA8

If you can swap between systems it would eliminate the need for a separate System Menu!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on June 04, 2018, 08:48:01 AM
Is there a chance for a 4: 3 version?

Yes, it will scale to all horizontal ratios.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on June 05, 2018, 03:50:15 AM
Amazing job Oomek!  But I think it would be well worth swapping out the vertical filter list to a system list instead!
If you can swap between systems it would eliminate the need for a separate System Menu!

That’s not going to happen. I extensively use filters and mainly use Mame.
I can add systems menu later activated with a button.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: bundangdon on June 06, 2018, 01:57:42 AM
Great theme! Are the new menus included in attractmode, or only part of this theme?
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on June 06, 2018, 07:13:52 AM
The menus are part of the theme. But (if Andrew agrees) the goal is to refresh the whole AM menu system in the future, because it feels a bit ancient. This is just one of the ideas for it.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: bundangdon on June 07, 2018, 01:38:44 AM
The menus are part of the theme. But (if Andrew agrees) the goal is to refresh the whole AM menu system in the future, because it feels a bit ancient. This is just one of the ideas for it.


Very much agree with you that it's time for the whole AttractMode menu system to be overhauled and given a proper facelift.  :D  And if the (new) menu system looked anything at all like this theme, it would be great!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: dukpoki on June 07, 2018, 10:56:13 AM
That’s not going to happen. I extensively use filters and mainly use Mame.
I can add systems menu later activated with a button.

No worries.  It looks fantastic the way it is!  :)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Dexther on June 12, 2018, 02:01:21 PM
is a very good !
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: ryuuji on June 20, 2018, 02:57:28 PM
C'mon man we are dying here
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: crawlingpeter on June 23, 2018, 10:17:55 AM
This looks amazing and I can't wait to check it out! Hopefully it can be released sooner than later :D
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on June 23, 2018, 02:36:35 PM
no one here wants to step on toes but, maybe  it's time for a side branch of AM
"Oomek"
kickstarter......

i would donate.......

just an idea .. :o
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: sickle on June 24, 2018, 07:35:37 PM
hey, Oomek.
just wanted to say that i love all your work. (i currently use the silky theme)

PS: is there any way you can release a beta version of this?
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on June 27, 2018, 03:13:13 AM
Andrew is in a process of merging my contributions to the Attract Mode on which my theme heavily relies on, so you have to be a bit more patient, It will be released as soon as the AM 2.5.0 is out
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Giacomo1982 on June 27, 2018, 03:34:03 PM
Andrew is in a process of merging my contributions to the Attract Mode on which my theme heavily relies on, so you have to be a bit more patient, It will be released as soon as the AM 2.5.0 is out

Good news! I'm so happy!!!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: igarikoitz on July 03, 2018, 11:16:51 AM
Hello, I introduce myself: I am igarikoitz, creator of the themes Aurora, Aura and Aura 4K for RetroFE.

After watching your latest video about the Ambience HD theme that you are doing, the possibility of the Frond-end Attrack Mode to create the themes has been powerfully called to me.

In August I have vacations in my work and I am considering studying the theme system used by Attrack Mode, to create a version of Aura 4K.

In any case, Oomek very good design. Keep it up so it's getting very impressive.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on July 03, 2018, 07:09:26 PM
welcome.....amazing ,crisp and clean.... ;D
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on July 04, 2018, 09:30:04 AM
Hello, I introduce myself: I am igarikoitz, creator of the themes Aurora, Aura and Aura 4K for RetroFE.

After watching your latest video about the Ambience HD theme that you are doing, the possibility of the Frond-end Attrack Mode to create the themes has been powerfully called to me.

In August I have vacations in my work and I am considering studying the theme system used by Attrack Mode, to create a version of Aura 4K.

In any case, Oomek very good design. Keep it up so it's getting very impressive.

I'm happy that I'm the source of your inspiration. AM api is maybe hard to learn for the beginner, but if you spend some time dissecting other themes you will learn quickly and appreciate the versatility Squirrel provides.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: crawlingpeter on July 05, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
Andrew is in a process of merging my contributions to the Attract Mode on which my theme heavily relies on, so you have to be a bit more patient, It will be released as soon as the AM 2.5.0 is out
I can't wait for 2.5.0 simply because it means this theme will be out!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: crawlingpeter on July 12, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
Andrew is in a process of merging my contributions to the Attract Mode on which my theme heavily relies on, so you have to be a bit more patient, It will be released as soon as the AM 2.5.0 is out

I see that the next version has just been released on Github! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: JC10001 on August 06, 2018, 05:54:16 PM
I can't wait for this to release.  :)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: dark1973 on August 10, 2018, 01:07:12 AM
Great work!!! theme is woderful. I'm waiting release
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on August 17, 2018, 07:33:41 AM
Andrew is in a process of merging my contributions to the Attract Mode on which my theme heavily relies on, so you have to be a bit more patient, It will be released as soon as the AM 2.5.0 is out
I can't wait for 2.5.0 simply because it means this theme will be out!


we just went to 2.4,    does this mean we wait another year for 2.5 till release?
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on August 17, 2018, 07:53:02 AM
I want to be perfectly honest with you. I started rewritting the theme, but in the meantime I got distracted and started experimenting with asynchronous loading of images for AttractMode. I’ve underestimated the complexity of the task and it’s taking longer as I thought it would.
Here’s a little demo and as you can see I load almost 300 snaps in 100ms while preserving smooth 60fps.

https://youtu.be/xYKcS_rrjpM

I can drop it and finish Ambience, but you have to answer it for yourself, what is more important, finishing my theme, or async image loading for AM ;)
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: zpaolo11x on August 17, 2018, 08:09:05 AM
I can drop it and finish Ambience, but you have to answer it for yourself, what is more important, finishing my theme, or async image loading for AM ;)

That's a tough choice :D I'm a fan of Ambience HD but I also would like async image loading for my theme... and that would mean I'll have to re-rewrite it... all of this is FUN :D
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Oomek on August 17, 2018, 08:11:19 AM
I don’t think you would have to rewrite your theme as async loading will be done by Attract Mode internally.
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: zpaolo11x on August 17, 2018, 08:25:00 AM
I don’t think you would have to rewrite your theme as async loading will be done by Attract Mode internally.

Even better. But I'll find some other reason to rewrite my theme, I'm sure :D
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: tekn0 on August 24, 2018, 11:15:39 AM
I want to be perfectly honest with you. I started rewritting the theme, but in the meantime I got distracted and started experimenting with asynchronous loading of images for AttractMode. I’ve underestimated the complexity of the task and it’s taking longer as I thought it would.
Here’s a little demo and as you can see I load almost 300 snaps in 100ms while preserving smooth 60fps.

https://youtu.be/xYKcS_rrjpM

I can drop it and finish Ambience, but you have to answer it for yourself, what is more important, finishing my theme, or async image loading for AM ;)

This is amazing, Thank you for your hard work!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: crawlingpeter on August 29, 2018, 08:53:33 AM
Super impressive progress with what you're doing on AM. Very hyped for your changes in that and this theme!
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: Compacdusk on October 21, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
Any new progress? I've been looking for a new theme and I really enjoy this
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: SFNMutt on October 24, 2018, 10:54:16 AM
anxiously awaiting this release.  thanks
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: jedione on October 24, 2018, 05:58:42 PM
im thinking he has kind of painted the picture a few lines up....yaa know

but if you must,,   im thinking you would  have better luck hitting him up
on the discord Chanel......good luck
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: JC10001 on November 08, 2018, 07:44:19 PM
This is never coming out, is it?   :(
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: zpaolo11x on November 09, 2018, 01:26:28 AM
This is never coming out, is it?   :(

Oomek has been busy developing features for AM that will bring benefits to all themes and developers. I'm sure he's still working on Ambiance HD and we just have to wait and thank him for the excellent work he's doing
Title: Re: Ambience HD theme [WIP]
Post by: iOtero on November 09, 2018, 02:58:29 AM
This is never coming out, is it?   :(

Oomek has been busy developing features for AM that will bring benefits to all themes and developers. I'm sure he's still working on Ambiance HD and we just have to wait and thank him for the excellent work he's doing

Oomek suffers from a fibromyalgia and can not work continuously, that's why he comes here only in the periods when he is better, or at least he said in the forum.