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Attract-Mode Support => Themes => Topic started by: verion on May 12, 2019, 08:02:56 AM

Title: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on May 12, 2019, 08:02:56 AM
We're working on a vertical theme concept that will be easy on resources.
So most of the eye candy will be just with images and overlays - so it can still look good while working flawlessly on weak hardware (RPi).

The idea behind the design is to have a smaller video (for better resolution/quality on hi-res screens) - but not as a rectangle window slapped on a background, we want it to blend nicely.

And just 3 elements:
- video/screenshot
- wheel (game logo)
- game list

question #1:
Do you think it should be more elements?

question #2:
Is the 4:3 aspect only ok? I have a feeling that if people are using dedicated vertical screen - it's 4:3 only.

Bigger image HERE (https://www.facebook.com/ONYXarcade/photos/a.562943047214551/1227662667409249/?type=3&theater)

Video preview HERE (https://www.facebook.com/ONYXarcade/videos/653130338481660/)
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 12, 2019, 03:22:12 PM
question #1:
Do you think it should be more elements?     No

question #2:
Is the 4:3 aspect only ok? I have a feeling that if people are using dedicated vertical screen - it's 4:3 only.  Yes

question #2:   Got any,   vid of it running?    looks good...
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 12, 2019, 04:01:50 PM
No video... it's only a still image for now.
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: keilmillerjr on May 12, 2019, 04:45:41 PM
question #1:
Do you think it should be more elements?
No.
question #2:
Is the 4:3 aspect only ok? I have a feeling that if people are using dedicated vertical screen - it's 4:3 only.
If the design utilizes raster images and thus not easy to make fluid, force an aspect and let other aspects have jail-bars.

I love the design, but would love to see what it looks like without the control panel image and the overall skew. It looks like a better non-branded version of pandora box. 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 12, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
"It looks like a better non-branded version of pandora box. 8)"

well ya..  but needs all new coding and images,,,, like the idea and  and where you have gone with it... :)
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 14, 2019, 02:24:02 AM
@jedione

I've checked your pandora theme.
I was hoping that I can simply reuse its code.
But like you've said - it's not that simple as slaping new artwork and call it a day.

But I was thinking - maybe you would want to team up with this, and redo your pandora theme to work with my layout?
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 14, 2019, 06:31:52 AM
ohh ya ,, that would work....ill pm you...  then we could get started... ;)

i have a dedicated vertical shump cab, in my bedroom this would go nicely on....
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: dukpoki on May 14, 2019, 09:16:43 PM
We're working on a vertical theme concept that will be easy on resources.

First of all, that is absolutely gorgeous.  Second of all, seriously another "concept" when you already have a long backlog of other "concepts"?  Bro I'm still waiting on "The Eye", "Carbonite", and "Magnus"!!!!!! hahaha  ;D ;D ;D  All kidding aside, I think this one so far looks the best.  I hope you and Jedione partnering up means we'll be able to actually enjoy this theme!  Good luck guys!

Oh and regarding the aspect ratio.  Why not create 2 variations?  One for 4:3 vertical and another for horizontal?  I also like keilmillerjr's idea on having a plain version with no control panel.  So that plain version could be the horizontal one?
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 15, 2019, 12:01:57 AM
@dupoki

Well... I'm a graphic designer. That's what I do. I've coded one theme (NEVATO) myself just to get to now what's behind the curtain with AM. Well... even that was not coding but forking Robospin + heavy modifications... but still. It's good to know limitations and possibilities of the system when designing.

For FLAT BLUE I've teamed up with @Chris - he coded my design and this was released successfully.

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For other themes I've teamed up with coders from this forum - but they all simply stopped working after a while.
No hard feelings, I fully understand it - everybody has a "real life" syndrome.

So if you want to pickup any of this designs and code it - just let me know. You or anyone else.
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 15, 2019, 12:10:01 AM
I also like keilmillerjr's idea on having a plain version with no control panel.

Yea, that's the plan. That is a mockup shown in a real cab. it will be just a 2D, full sceen design - without the controls.

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And the good news - jedione agreed to code this. So keep your fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: dukpoki on May 15, 2019, 12:55:02 PM
So if you want to pickup any of this designs and code it - just let me know. You or anyone else.

I never knew you were not working on them--whether in your personal time or with someone else (The Eye with ArcadeBliss was it?).  I liked most of your designs but I didn't want to "steal" them.   Not only that but I'm nowhere near as skilled to bring your ideas to life.  I did try to do a modified magnus theme before but it was nowhere near as good as your original design.  I would honestly love to see zpaolo11x working with you one day.  His coding skills + your graphic designs would skyrocket AM as the definitive front end around.  Now that would be sweet!
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 15, 2019, 03:21:59 PM
ohh ill be getting some help from others to, always have...but as for sitting on this theme no way
i think,  we can get this out, Farley quickly

true, abought  zpaolo11x,,,      dudes  got the skills...
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 17, 2019, 05:53:08 AM
I've added video preview HERE (https://www.facebook.com/ONYXarcade/videos/653130338481660/)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 17, 2019, 07:14:53 PM
quick update, of were this is going....  layout started..  thinking to add some basic Tweeks, in the options

dont want to get to carried away.,,   .like to keep a theme simple..ya know,     

https://youtu.be/ly31gMGSRHo
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 19, 2019, 07:17:46 AM
5/19/19 UPDATE:

Starting to come together... Preview = https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk (https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: dukpoki on May 19, 2019, 08:06:35 PM
5/19/19 UPDATE:

Starting to come together... Preview = https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk (https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk)

It's looking good guys.  The font looks squished though.  Question:  Is Verion providing the assets?  (like graphics, fonts, etc)  I ask because some of the graphics look different from the original.  Like the green transparency on the game select looks different.  Anyways again looks good so far!
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on May 19, 2019, 11:07:18 PM
Yes, I'm providing all the assets. Exactly the same as in my mockup.

The thing is AM handles transparency somehow differently than Photoshop - usually... not as good :D
So I'll have to tweak this later to fix the look in AM.

And yes - the font is squished. And it shouldn't be like this - but it's just a start.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 20, 2019, 07:06:38 AM
just getting to that...  and learning some new stuff,  dident even know

    * `glyph_size` - Get the height in pixels of the capital letter.
        Useful if you want to set the textbox height to match the letter height.
   * `char_spacing` - Get/set the spacing factor between letters.  Default value is 1.0
   * `line_spacing` - Get/set the spacing factor between lines.  Default value is 1.0 
     At values 0.75 or lower letters start to overlap. For uppercase texts it's around 0.5 

results,, 
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2ags1s4.png)

thanks for the feed back...  will be messing with the saturation and transparency a bit, for best desired look
 :)

Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 30, 2019, 05:49:09 PM
well, hear is the update....  iv got favorites working,  for the regular list..

but cant figure out how to make it work with the shuffle module..its holding thing up :-[

got kind of a tip, from the maker..  but no successes on my end..

if anyone thinks that they could code it , please let me know... i dont know anuff abought it..

but i have a good  starting point though..

till this is remedied ....im at a stall with the theme....sorry..
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: keilmillerjr on May 30, 2019, 10:24:15 PM
well, hear is the update....  iv got favorites working,  for the regular list..

but cant figure out how to make it work with the shuffle module..its holding thing up :-[

got kind of a tip, from the maker..  but no successes on my end..

if anyone thinks that they could code it , please let me know... i dont know anuff abought it..

but i have a good  starting point though..

till this is remedied ....im at a stall with the theme....sorry..

I can add favorites. That is very easy. But need to figure out why it keeps resetting back to the first slot. Code was hard to follow.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on May 31, 2019, 12:04:43 AM
@keil
thanks for your help

@jedione
we can go just with that simple list, but since keil wants to help with favs it worth to have a shot - to have shuffle as an option
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 31, 2019, 06:26:37 AM
agreed :)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: sosimple on June 08, 2019, 08:50:56 AM
Very beautiful . If anyone could modify it to horizontal, it would be great. :)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on June 16, 2019, 04:30:24 PM
OK getting closer to. release...  keil totally came though, on the shuffle   awesome work my friend..

big thanks..

waiting for updates, to make it finale .....show a vid tomorrow...were were at....

will update first post..... :D

probably wait for the loop update   :P   keil....

Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on October 18, 2019, 06:33:08 AM
ok finaly the update to AM made it v2.6.0 ,,,,this is what has been holding this theme up!

it has fixed the font issue,   yaaaa    check out what it did for it...   will get off my ass and finish it now

here is a comparison....just droping theme into new AM...amazing..

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/5d/c1/qlOUvQKS_t.png) (http://imgbox.com/qlOUvQKS)

granit this might screw with older themes,,,
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 18, 2019, 09:00:03 AM
Great!
I thought you've given up and was thinking about make a post if someone want a take on this.
When you'll be ready - send it to me, and I'll tweak the graphics. It's needed, because AM displays colours differently than PS. Especially the gradients.
Usually I tweak the overlays to make it more subtle.

I can see that you want to add some info at the bottom?
Right? I can came up with some ideas to present it.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on October 18, 2019, 10:09:10 AM
 na was just at a stale mate, with the fonts,  and not mutch for the discord life...

ill just make the layout code clean,  and ship it to ya for the tweek on grafix...

if you could pm me with those ideas you have so i can mash them in, befor sending you a final copy
thanks,,  verion

im stoked that keil added, the shuffle mod to this it works great...taik to ya soon..
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 19, 2019, 02:17:42 AM
Great. I'll post some ideas for additional info display
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 19, 2019, 05:53:27 AM
hmm... I can't upload an image.

Forum says
"The upload folder is full"

I've posted it on my FB
https://www.facebook.com/ONYXarcade/photos/a.562943047214551/1357092021132979/?type=3&av=561670787341777&eav=AfYRm267Mp0CUeKom879Pv5rsQ_O5iZQclNZrPosU4GdEtj9_Lpbo6pkWsOKF_MNBhc&theater


#1 and #2 is more flexible - as it's just a bg and you can put any text here
#3 has to be tailored to the exact stats/info you want to present

What info do you think is needed? Personally - I don't need any or maybe a play counter.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on October 19, 2019, 07:48:29 AM
it says "Insufficient Permission"  cant view,   maby imgbox might work well for you..

but as for info,  i am a minimalist,   so what ever i put their,  im thinking to make it not seen, with the option
to use custom 1 button to toggle it.  then we all win,   

looking forward to seeing the images,  im almost on weekend ...would like to send you the final copy say
Monday,  so you can due your magic ...

 
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 19, 2019, 08:19:02 AM
(https://onyxarcade.com/bionic/BIONIC-theme--info-bezel.jpg)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on October 19, 2019, 11:03:04 AM
i realy like # 1   can u send the png of it and ill put it in,  as an option... :)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 19, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
here
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: rand0m on October 20, 2019, 03:34:56 PM
Amazing design verion.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 21, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
Thanks, but to be frank I'm reusing some parts of the UI kit that I have left from my old discarded project (game interface).
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on October 21, 2019, 06:55:03 PM
Bionic   

well i feel like this is abought ready,,


now back over to verion, for some touch ups on his grafix he wanted....


a little bit a bought the theme before he releases it..and its use,
I personally feel,  that it is a vertical only theme,, and meant to be.

also a theme is only as strong as the users roms , snaps and marquees ext...

theme info:

#.0 use only new 2.6.0 AM....

#.1 their is a second theme that is just the original, concept, as layout2
   use the toggle layout in options to acsess this..theme

#.2 the video sound is controld in the sounds "movie volume" in options.

#.3 set up add remove "favorouts" , no comfermation  button

#.4 for swithing to tait mode, use toggle rotation, button

#.5 emulator > .config  for grafix is
   artwork    marquee   =      marquee
   artwork    snap      =      snaps
   artwork    video     =      video

#.6 up down = next & previus game...

#.7 left right = next leter, change...


   also !!!    U will need a copy of kiles shuffle module,  included in zip,
      drop this into your ,modules folder.....


#.8 4-options added so u can have snaps or video, with their sound, or
use the snaps-music / video-music,  to omite,video sound and play random music
from the %home% music folder,    just drop in your favoret songs...

#.9 ohh ya if you feel u need somthing added or removed,  then do it...


here is is a few shots and vid of it,  with some luck,,  might be out in a few days or so.....

to verion,  ill shoot you a copy in a few hours....cant wait to see your grafix tweeks.. :)


youtube preview = https://youtu.be/dNSU1_blqD0 (https://youtu.be/dNSU1_blqD0)



(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/3f/20/RPLh7zZZ_t.png) (http://imgbox.com/RPLh7zZZ)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: bionictoothpick on October 22, 2019, 08:32:53 AM
Video seems blocked in US.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: keilmillerjr on October 22, 2019, 09:12:23 AM
Copyright violation.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 22, 2019, 12:31:38 PM
I have to tone down the overlays. AM tends to over-bright the images - at least compared to how it looks in Photoshop. It really is too much especially with that bright greens. I'll get to it in this weekend.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on October 22, 2019, 12:38:02 PM
This is how the initial design looked like.
All graphics are imported directly from this.
AM over-blowed the greens significantly.

(https://onyxarcade.com/bionic/BIONIC-theme-initial-design.jpg)