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Title: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on May 12, 2019, 08:02:56 AM
We're working on a vertical theme concept that will be easy on resources.
So most of the eye candy will be just with images and overlays - so it can still look good while working flawlessly on weak hardware (RPi).

The idea behind the design is to have a smaller video (for better resolution/quality on hi-res screens) - but not as a rectangle window slapped on a background, we want it to blend nicely.

And just 3 elements:
- video/screenshot
- wheel (game logo)
- game list

question #1:
Do you think it should be more elements?

question #2:
Is the 4:3 aspect only ok? I have a feeling that if people are using dedicated vertical screen - it's 4:3 only.

Bigger image HERE (https://www.facebook.com/ONYXarcade/photos/a.562943047214551/1227662667409249/?type=3&theater)

Video preview HERE (https://www.facebook.com/ONYXarcade/videos/653130338481660/)
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 12, 2019, 03:22:12 PM
question #1:
Do you think it should be more elements?     No

question #2:
Is the 4:3 aspect only ok? I have a feeling that if people are using dedicated vertical screen - it's 4:3 only.  Yes

question #2:   Got any,   vid of it running?    looks good...
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 12, 2019, 04:01:50 PM
No video... it's only a still image for now.
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: keilmillerjr on May 12, 2019, 04:45:41 PM
question #1:
Do you think it should be more elements?
No.
question #2:
Is the 4:3 aspect only ok? I have a feeling that if people are using dedicated vertical screen - it's 4:3 only.
If the design utilizes raster images and thus not easy to make fluid, force an aspect and let other aspects have jail-bars.

I love the design, but would love to see what it looks like without the control panel image and the overall skew. It looks like a better non-branded version of pandora box. 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 12, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
"It looks like a better non-branded version of pandora box. 8)"

well ya..  but needs all new coding and images,,,, like the idea and  and where you have gone with it... :)
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 14, 2019, 02:24:02 AM
@jedione

I've checked your pandora theme.
I was hoping that I can simply reuse its code.
But like you've said - it's not that simple as slaping new artwork and call it a day.

But I was thinking - maybe you would want to team up with this, and redo your pandora theme to work with my layout?
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 14, 2019, 06:31:52 AM
ohh ya ,, that would work....ill pm you...  then we could get started... ;)

i have a dedicated vertical shump cab, in my bedroom this would go nicely on....
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: dukpoki on May 14, 2019, 09:16:43 PM
We're working on a vertical theme concept that will be easy on resources.

First of all, that is absolutely gorgeous.  Second of all, seriously another "concept" when you already have a long backlog of other "concepts"?  Bro I'm still waiting on "The Eye", "Carbonite", and "Magnus"!!!!!! hahaha  ;D ;D ;D  All kidding aside, I think this one so far looks the best.  I hope you and Jedione partnering up means we'll be able to actually enjoy this theme!  Good luck guys!

Oh and regarding the aspect ratio.  Why not create 2 variations?  One for 4:3 vertical and another for horizontal?  I also like keilmillerjr's idea on having a plain version with no control panel.  So that plain version could be the horizontal one?
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 15, 2019, 12:01:57 AM
@dupoki

Well... I'm a graphic designer. That's what I do. I've coded one theme (NEVATO) myself just to get to now what's behind the curtain with AM. Well... even that was not coding but forking Robospin + heavy modifications... but still. It's good to know limitations and possibilities of the system when designing.

For FLAT BLUE I've teamed up with @Chris - he coded my design and this was released successfully.

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For other themes I've teamed up with coders from this forum - but they all simply stopped working after a while.
No hard feelings, I fully understand it - everybody has a "real life" syndrome.

So if you want to pickup any of this designs and code it - just let me know. You or anyone else.
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 15, 2019, 12:10:01 AM
I also like keilmillerjr's idea on having a plain version with no control panel.

Yea, that's the plan. That is a mockup shown in a real cab. it will be just a 2D, full sceen design - without the controls.

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And the good news - jedione agreed to code this. So keep your fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: dukpoki on May 15, 2019, 12:55:02 PM
So if you want to pickup any of this designs and code it - just let me know. You or anyone else.

I never knew you were not working on them--whether in your personal time or with someone else (The Eye with ArcadeBliss was it?).  I liked most of your designs but I didn't want to "steal" them.   Not only that but I'm nowhere near as skilled to bring your ideas to life.  I did try to do a modified magnus theme before but it was nowhere near as good as your original design.  I would honestly love to see zpaolo11x working with you one day.  His coding skills + your graphic designs would skyrocket AM as the definitive front end around.  Now that would be sweet!
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: jedione on May 15, 2019, 03:21:59 PM
ohh ill be getting some help from others to, always have...but as for sitting on this theme no way
i think,  we can get this out, Farley quickly

true, abought  zpaolo11x,,,      dudes  got the skills...
Title: Re: [WIP] BIONIC theme - a new approach to vertical theme
Post by: verion on May 17, 2019, 05:53:08 AM
I've added video preview HERE (https://www.facebook.com/ONYXarcade/videos/653130338481660/)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 17, 2019, 07:14:53 PM
quick update, of were this is going....  layout started..  thinking to add some basic Tweeks, in the options

dont want to get to carried away.,,   .like to keep a theme simple..ya know,     

https://youtu.be/ly31gMGSRHo
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 19, 2019, 07:17:46 AM
5/19/19 UPDATE:

Starting to come together... Preview = https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk (https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: dukpoki on May 19, 2019, 08:06:35 PM
5/19/19 UPDATE:

Starting to come together... Preview = https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk (https://youtu.be/jGLHRMrZXAk)

It's looking good guys.  The font looks squished though.  Question:  Is Verion providing the assets?  (like graphics, fonts, etc)  I ask because some of the graphics look different from the original.  Like the green transparency on the game select looks different.  Anyways again looks good so far!
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on May 19, 2019, 11:07:18 PM
Yes, I'm providing all the assets. Exactly the same as in my mockup.

The thing is AM handles transparency somehow differently than Photoshop - usually... not as good :D
So I'll have to tweak this later to fix the look in AM.

And yes - the font is squished. And it shouldn't be like this - but it's just a start.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 20, 2019, 07:06:38 AM
just getting to that...  and learning some new stuff,  dident even know

    * `glyph_size` - Get the height in pixels of the capital letter.
        Useful if you want to set the textbox height to match the letter height.
   * `char_spacing` - Get/set the spacing factor between letters.  Default value is 1.0
   * `line_spacing` - Get/set the spacing factor between lines.  Default value is 1.0 
     At values 0.75 or lower letters start to overlap. For uppercase texts it's around 0.5 

results,, 
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2ags1s4.png)

thanks for the feed back...  will be messing with the saturation and transparency a bit, for best desired look
 :)

Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 30, 2019, 05:49:09 PM
well, hear is the update....  iv got favorites working,  for the regular list..

but cant figure out how to make it work with the shuffle module..its holding thing up :-[

got kind of a tip, from the maker..  but no successes on my end..

if anyone thinks that they could code it , please let me know... i dont know anuff abought it..

but i have a good  starting point though..

till this is remedied ....im at a stall with the theme....sorry..
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: keilmillerjr on May 30, 2019, 10:24:15 PM
well, hear is the update....  iv got favorites working,  for the regular list..

but cant figure out how to make it work with the shuffle module..its holding thing up :-[

got kind of a tip, from the maker..  but no successes on my end..

if anyone thinks that they could code it , please let me know... i dont know anuff abought it..

but i have a good  starting point though..

till this is remedied ....im at a stall with the theme....sorry..

I can add favorites. That is very easy. But need to figure out why it keeps resetting back to the first slot. Code was hard to follow.
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: verion on May 31, 2019, 12:04:43 AM
@keil
thanks for your help

@jedione
we can go just with that simple list, but since keil wants to help with favs it worth to have a shot - to have shuffle as an option
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on May 31, 2019, 06:26:37 AM
agreed :)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: sosimple on June 08, 2019, 08:50:56 AM
Very beautiful . If anyone could modify it to horizontal, it would be great. :)
Title: Re: [video preview] BIONIC theme (vertical theme)
Post by: jedione on June 16, 2019, 04:30:24 PM
OK getting closer to. release...  keil totally came though, on the shuffle   awesome work my friend..

big thanks..

waiting for updates, to make it finale .....show a vid tomorrow...were were at....

will update first post..... :D

probably wait for the loop update   :P   keil....