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I'm messing around with AdvanceMAME now because I want metal slug 5 to work, so I'm testing out all the versions of the emulators that I like.

Umm..huh that's strange.  Advance mame should work well on that machine...that's weird..
Note that advance mame works better then the plain mame 0.106. CPSIII games (not sure when they working in what later version of mame and Toplan games work correctly with samples and the original 0.106 did not not until 2015?...I think... OH! and with CPSIII game in advance mame you don't need to have the chd to run them as you do in mame...but Advance mame will not run Killer Instinct 1 or 2 that driver has been broken for awhile now.

If metal slug 5 can run no lagg no frame skipping on a dos based system thats a P3 400Mhz with some old version that I dont know of AdvanceMAME?!?!, becuase I had a 200IN1 machine like that recently...
Okay now you are talking my launguage! I had an EXACT sysytem like that when I started with mame. I could not run anything up to neogeo games. (I could not run them or anything above them.) But I did find a version of mame that was made just for the problem. In fact I still use it..it very old but it worked for me. It is called 'fast mame'. It is mame...just well optimized i guess? Try it and see if it helps.
https://www.emulation64.com/files/info/41/fastmame.html/ (I am not responsible for any software YOU install and if/when anything gets messed up..just so you know :P )
but you can expect laggg on emulators that goes above a certain version number, I dunno if they changed the code or changed sometime bigtime... but everything just lagggs on new emulators using P4 systems, but downgrade your emulator and the lagg with be gone... I dont get!!!

The newer versions of mame are "more accurate" so therefore they take more resources to run even older games. i.e. you need more power to run them. So on ans older machine it is best to stick with older versions of mame. Among other reasons.... So yes with older machines you just have to use MANY emulators and versions of mame. Also if you want neogeo to run you can try final burn neo for neogeo (and CPSIII) games. That is what I do. I even run dice and Daphne so I can play pong and Dragon's lair.
Sadly part of running a "full cabinet" is about how many different emulators you need and how to make them work. That is how it goes...that is the way it has always been...

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Wait a minute *facepaw*


wrong path!


put this in as your rom [path] instead

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rompath           "M:\Emulators\Colecovision\Colecovision rom\"
(that was my fault for not paying attention sorry!)  :-X

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try changing
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rompath      roms
 to

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rompath     M:\Emulators\mameplus\   

in your mame .ini and see if that makes a difference..it did for me anyway.


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Well I am not sure what the problem is. However as I said...

If you will use the gamesbd as an info source (i.e. info_source thegamesdb.net not info_source  listxml) when you build the list the list should contain long names even if you use mame roms for coleco vision on mame.

But that does not explain why you attract mode config is not working...  :-\

Could you post your mame.ini file please? specifically just these parts so that i can see your path setup please

# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS
#
homepath                  .
rompath     M:\Emulators\mameplus\   <-make sure you have this
hashpath     
samplepath   
artpath     
ctrlrpath     
inipath     
fontpath                 


I tired with my mame after changing my rom path and AM will not work... Put the right path in in the correct place and it works fine

if you need to make an ini file go to your mame directory and type
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mame -cc

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This is so odd...

change

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workdir             M:\Emulators\mameplusto
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workdir             M:\Emulators\mameplus\

if you have the roms zipped (.zip) and one rom uncompressed (.col) that is why you have two of the same game

Also note you can use a different emulator for coleco games

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# Generated by Attract-Mode v2.6.1
#
executable        mame.exe
args                 coleco -cart "[romfilename]"
workdir             [place your path to you mame executable here]
rompath             "M:\Emulators\Colecovision\Colecovision rom\"
romext               .zip;.7z;.col
system               Colecovision
info_source          thegamesdb.net


see if that works...

Remember to rebuild your list after you change everything!

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[quote author=gamesmame link=topic=4005.msg27984#msg27984 date=1623692896
"works" for example if i rename the: 2010 - The Graphic Action Game (USA, Europe).zip for 2020.zip

BUT i need, this AM/MAME loads with the Big names, exacly with the RL makes MAME loads, like same your see in my printscreens!
[/quote]

Hmm...well if you are wanting clean long name in attract mode lists Attract mode will give you the long name when you build the list...

but I think it's something with mame. Let me try with a long name rom...give me just a moment

if you do this:
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mame coleco -cart "2010 - The Graphic Action Game (1984).zip" it will not work

if you do this:

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mame coleco -cart "/home/user/.mame/roms/2010 - The Graphic Action Game (1984).zip" it will work

you need to add the full path and rom name including extension

if you can make it run from the command line and give me exactly what you used I can build your config file for you to make it work.. however

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mame.exe coleco -cart  "M:\Emulators\Colecovision\Colecovision rom\2010 - The Graphic Action Game (USA, Europe).col" -skip_gameinfo should work remember you need to be in the folder where mame is before you can type that for it to work!

also if your rom is zipped use
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mame.exe coleco -cart  "M:\Emulators\Colecovision\Colecovision rom\2010 - The Graphic Action Game (USA, Europe).zip" -skip_gameinfo should work remember you need to be in the folder where mame is before you can type that for it to work!

Note: I am coming from linux you can not use my CLI line!

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can you start mame dirrectly from the command line using this?:

open the command line by pressing Windows key+ R and typing"

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cmd
then

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cd M:\Emulators\mameplus\
then

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mame.exe coleco -cart  "M:\Emulators\Colecovision\Colecovision rom\2010 - The Graphic Action Game (USA, Europe) .col " -skip_gameinfo
(short version open a command line prompt change to your folder that has your mame.exe in it and then try to start it from the command line using the  correct format for mame)

Are you using a front end? I ask because of the picture you sent..it looks like it

Also sorry that is not supposed to be

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args voleco -cart "[romname]" -skip_gameinfo
it should be

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args coleco -cart "[romname]" -skip_gameinfo
coleco not voleco (sorry for the typo!)

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I wasn't finished posting sorry. Please look at the end this post. it should have a corrected (and hopefully working) config file

I noticed your args line was missing needed things. the above should work

I need to ask though do you have your mame.ini set correctly? the rom path? You need to ave that path in your mame.ini file so that mame knows to look there for the roms (I am guessing yes because mame works just fine without AM.)

One other thing:
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executable M: /Emulators/mameplus/mame.exe
is incorrect...assuming you are on windows..it should be

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executable M:\Emulators\mameplus\mame.exe
looking further .... your rom path looks incorrect
 
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rompath M: \ Emulators \ Colecovision \ Colecovision rom
is incorrect syntax

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rompath "M:\Emulators\Colecovision\Colecovision rom"
the space in your path name...again you need quotes

Your config file should look like this

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# Generated by Attract-Mode v2.6.1
#
executable M:\Emulators\mameplus\mame.exe
args voleco -cart "[romname]" -skip_gameinfo
rompath "M:\Emulators\Colecovision\Colecovision rom"
romext .zip; .7z; .col

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# Generated by Attract-Mode v2.6.1
#
executable M: /Emulators/mameplus/mame.exe
args collection [romname] -skip_gameinfo
rompath M: \ Emulators \ Colecovision \ Colecovision rom
romext .zip; .7z; .col

Do this:
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# Generated by Attract-Mode v2.6.1
#
executable M: /Emulators/mameplus/mame.exe
args coleco -cart "[romname]" -skip_gameinfo
rompath M: \ Emulators \ Colecovision \ Colecovision rom
romext .zip; .7z; .col

1. Remember the Command line doesn't like spaces. Quotes make it "one thing". (Thus you are sending
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mame col -cart 2010 to the command line not
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mame col -cart 2010 - The Graphic Action Game (USA, Europe) the command line needs the full file name to work correctly.)

2. Note that when using roms with mame they normally do not take the long form (i.e. 2010 - The Graphic Action Game (USA, Europe) .zip is normally 2010.zip) They can be used of course.

 report back if it worked please

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Have a look at your mame.ini file what is your video set to? try software ...then try d3d but remember that card has to be able to handle Diretx9 at least! Like I said I use just the integrated graphics and it works fine for most games. (mame.ini set to d3d)

 I use plain vanilla mame  version 0.130 32-bit version with the "scanline" artwork overlay (the machine is a old 32 bit cpu) and it works fine. At least up to cpnz games (i.e street fighter EX..and I have to use and old emulator for that mame will not run them) any systems beyond that will NOT work of a  machine like that (a 1.7ghz). You can also try a lower version of mame as newer versions are more intensive on the cpu so your machine may not have the needed resources for that

 I also assume that you installed windows XP 32 bit on these machines?

Also check the resolution of your monitor turn it down to 800x600 and then try again. You would be surprised how much that will help performance. And most of theses games are not even 800X600 most of them are lower even! you could try 640X480 because of that.

Again you can try Final Burn Neo for games that mame has trouble running. Even then it is hit and miss.

As for AM itself it still crashes upon start? You could try and older version..I think that might be what I did...I will have to look. And I have a very minimal theme to use with it.

Please report back your findings I will continue trying to help you.

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Are there any type of errors reported in the command line when ran from there?

mame runs like rubbish on onboard gfx on old pc's!!!

Well actually I do not think MAME will even use your graphics card....What version of mame are you trying to run? about as high as i could go was 0.130

If older arcade games are what you are wanting to run you can try final burn neo...or even final burn alpha maybe

I have an actual XP machine with onboard graphics works well enough..although I may be using MAMEWah! not Attract Mode.
 I'll dust it off tonight and let you know. It's so pld ot has a floppy drive and a 56K modem in it! I forgot about that...  :o  ???  ::)


Later: So I did just that. And it turns out it is an ATI onboard sooo sorry guess I am not much help.

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General / Re: attract-console --filter help
« on: June 08, 2021, 02:42:37 PM »
Thanks for that.  ;)

I've gone down a rabbit hole. In short I created a attractmode ROM list then used excel to get rid of the junk by using filters. I then saved the list of roms and only copied certain roms based on category/displaycount/status to my HDD. I verified/fixed the roms to work with my version of MAME and here I am.

Excel- A spreadsheet! I thought i was the only crazy person the did that  :P  I have nothing else to teach you my studunt my you game in peace and your chicken easy to stea- err i mean find  :P

I've saved 45GB worth of space. Now looking back I'm thinking if I should have just chewed up the HDD space and created global filters for MAME.  :-X

I know I do the same thing..it's work but worth it....smaller hard drives are easy to find...so whay not...nto to mention the less stuff on it the faster it is..to a point. I am just glad i am not cray all by myself xD

I put most of a mame set on a 40GB yes 40 GB hard drive. Fun fact: the first full gigabyte hard drive was made in 1985. It weighed 530 pounds and cost $40,000! xD

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General / Re: attract-console --filter help
« on: June 07, 2021, 09:39:36 PM »
Example..
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attract-console --build-romlist mame --full --filter Category equals Fighter / Versus --output Figters.txt

Your format is incorrect. You have spaces..the CLI is not going to accept that. It should be:
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attract-console --build-romlist mame --full --filter "Category equals Fighter / Versus" --output Figters.txt
and you can omit the .txt on the output file..as AM will add the .txt extention automatically (or should anyway). Omitting it kept me from getting list.txt.txt when I omitted the .txt (thus --output Figters not --output Figters.txt) your use may very.

From there I generated a list using AM itself. Then in the attract.cfg I edited it to use the name of my new list....or renamed my list to 'mame.txt' and AM used the new list as it should.

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General / Re: attract-console --filter help
« on: June 07, 2021, 05:30:37 AM »
Can i ask out of curiosity why you want to use the terminal CLI instead of the AM displays menu?

and yes you can set up multiple filters for each system/console

1. Start Attract Mode
2. Press the TAB key (brings you to the AM setup menu
3. Choose Displays
4. Pick your system
5. Choose add filter

Note: If you want to know EXACTLY what you can filter and how you can open a old or new generated list in a plain text editor (or  spreadsheet program for a cleaner look). Just look at the columns and the information in them and then close it without fear. Do not make any changes to the list unless you know what you are doing!

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